[S4E3] Alone In The World [REPACK]

Ronn, couldn't agree with you more with John Noble. He brings it every week and totally deserves an Emmy win let alone a nomination. That is the million dollar question that you're asking. I don't think any of us know how it's really going to play out. But in the short-term I think Peter will be inserted into this timeline where he "didn't" exist. I feel like he's going to have his memories of the past AND the future that he visited....but the others will not "regain" their memories of Peter. It would make for some interesting storylines and tension for the season. But, I do believe that Peter did not intend to erase himself from existence....his only plan was to create the bridge and get both sides to work together. He didn't intend on disappearing, let alone...having threads of him still exist and need help to come back. He may not really realize at this point that they don't remember him. As for returning to the original timeline....I just don't know if it's going to happen or not. The show is always advancing the story, so maybe seasons 1-3 were part of the story that needed to be told to get us to this point. Maybe Walter and Olivia need to RE-realize their need for Peter in their life. Maybe Peter will share with them the memories that they did share in the original timeline and that will be enough to move forward. I just don't know! But...you gotta think that Peter needs to find out at some point that he was a father to Fauxlivia's child, right?? I mean, surely that wasn't just a means to an end of season 3, right? Perhaps it was. The producers did promise us that it wasn't a traditional tale of "I impregnated a woman from another dimension that looks just like my true love." So maybe that's what they meant by it. Lots of questions of how this is all going to play out. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that this machine and bridge exists but none of them will acknowledge how it got there! Thanks for your comments ronn!

[S4E3] Alone in the World

Ugh, I typed a comment out on my phone and it didn't take! Couldn't even copy/paste to ensure it would work. lol Anyway, you're making perfect sense. But, I'm 99.9% sure that Peter did not intend to make himself not exist. His cries for help and fear would pretty much indicate that he wants to get back to reality. And being cut off in mid-sentence when "time caught up to him" and vanishing would also indicate that it was not his plan. His only plan was to bring the 2 worlds together to work together to save BOTH worlds. Walter did talk about having to let his son go but it was only because the observer told him that too. He knew in 1985 when September saved them out of the lake that a time would come where he'd have to give Peter up. And then the observer reminded him with the whole "give me the keys and save the girl" thing. But, the whole time Walter thought that it would be the machine that might KILL Peter, not remove him from existence! So I'm pretty certain that no one intended for this to happen except the observers. And the observers didn't intend for threads of Peter to still remain. And the only reason they do remain is, I'm guessing, because of the comment Broyles made last week. Some people leave an indelible mark on others. The emotional ties between Peter and Walter and Peter and Olivia are so strong that they couldn't be outright removed. That's at least where it seems to be headed. As for how things will play out when Peter returns...we all have our theories, but we definitely are just going to have to wait and see on that one!

Funny how there has been no mention of the tears or the breakdown between universes this season. Both worlds were going to hell in a handbasket at the end of season three, the bridge was formed by Peter to repair the damage, but now everything seems back to normal. Why aren't vortexes still forming or lightning storms? And, there has been little or no mention of anything being done to repair the damage between universes, which, was the main purpose of the bridge to begin with. So, what is the status of the two universes? Are they stable for the moment? Who is working on repairing the damage? Isn't doesn't seem Walter has anything to do with it.I was glad they mentioned Massive Dynamic. Now I can stop wondering about that.I wonder if the lower ratings forced the writers to speed up Peter's return.Like everyone else I am having a hard time envisioning what happens to the timeline when Peter returns.Bill B

Hey Bill! It is interesting that the tears have not been mentioned....They are obviously still an issue OVER THERE since we saw a segment of the population encased in Amber last week. Also, once peter disappeared Walternate said to Walter "you shattered my universe" and Walter responded "That was your fault!" So there definitely are still issues....but the plan now is to work together. They shared case files in the opening scene of the season premiere so they are all "getting smarter" on the issues both worlds have been facing. So, it's happening behind the scenes. As for OUR world having some crazy natural disasters at the end of season 3....well...that was being caused by the machine which peter was able to turn off while creating the bridge. I would assume that OUR universe is stable once again. As for the Red world...I would assume it's in the same state that it has been since 1985. Tears opening in random places. We'll get back to that story....of course I think we'll be facing a larger threat this year since both universes are working together now. But the major story right now is PETER and getting him back. As for the low ratings speeding up Peter's return, I don't think that has anything to do with it at all. The ratings are gonna be what they're going to be. And if Fringe is anything like LOST, it might take 5 weeks to produce 1 hour of television. They are working several episodes in advance of what we're seeing air.As for when Peter returns what's going to happen....I enjoy it being difficult to decipher. Makes it kinda exciting!! Thanks for the comments! BTW...whenever anyone is caught up on the finale of Breaking Bad...I am eager to discuss it!! I'm almost tempted to create a separate post entirely. But, probably not. lol

Bill, as I mentioned in my last comment...I don't think there is an impending collapse anymore. That was the whole point of putting Peter in the machine in the first place. The minimized the impact of our world by moving the machine to liberty island in proximity to the machine on the other side....so there was no more effect outside of NYC, if I recally my s3 knowledge correctly. But Peter still had to turn off the other machine, but before he turned it off...he created the bridge. Once the machine was turned off....no more issues for Blue-verse. Red-Verse is probably deteriorating at the same rate as it was before the machines. If you recall...the red universe was not in danger PRIOR to Peter getting in the machine (well not in any more danger than they were). Peter destroyed the red world in the future that he visited...but that never happened when he returned to the present. So...I'm guessing both worlds are fine right now. The problem is...we don't know what events really led to them being in the same room together since the key to operating both of those machines was Peter's DNA and now Peter AND Henry (Peter and Fauxlivia's son) do not exist. So in this revised timeline...the machine really shouldn't even exist....because it was Future Walter, motivated by the collapse of the blue-verse who built the machine with Peter's DNA in mind. Basically, the whole thing is one giant time - paradox (which...you may have seen is a word featured on the new opening credits). There is a chance that both sides of the Fringe-verses don't even realize how they ended up there. I'm hoping when Peter returns, he's going to shed light on the situation and crazy Walter will fill in the scientific blanks. I wouldn't find it insulting though....the impending collapse was resolved at the end of season 3....they still need to FIX the damage that has been done (since 1985), but that's going to happen over time. The problem with fringe is that it's a Serialized Show trapped in a Procedural show. There's always going to be a case of the week, and the other tidbits of information will be revealed to us over the season. Every once in a while we'll get a 100% mythology show and that's where we get some brain dumps of information about the other universe. Maybe they should have done one of these in episode 1 this season like they did with episode 1 of last season....but I'm perfectly fine with their approach. They're showing us right now what life is like without Peter in it and we are about to find out what happens when Peter is suddenly shoved into it! I'm going to guess that the first thing Peter will bring up is their shared experiences about saving the world....and he's going to be faced with a lot of confusion from the people closest to him. We just have to be patient!

The title of last night's episode, "Isolation," truly defined the essence of The Walking Dead this season. There are more people than ever in the prison, but the characters all seem more alone than they have ever been. The prison inhabitants are all having a pretty awful time: Glenn and Sasha are infected and aren't doing very well, Tyreese is mourning the death of Karen the old-fashioned way (fist fights and hammers), and Rick is still doing "Stuff" and "Things" in the prison. The true star of The Walking Dead this season is a character that spent all of season 1 being a victim of domestic abuse, season 2 crying, season 3 being locked in a crate for three episodes for safety, and has since come in to her own. In a shocking Godfather-esque character progression that still baffles and amazes me, the dish-towel turned MacGyver/New Shane, Carol, is the centerpiece of the show. 041b061a72